A big problem here is that we as humans can't even decide what it means to be conscious. Does it require sentience? Does it require free will and emotions, experience? Internal subjectiveness? It wasn't that long ago that we, as humans, believed cats and dogs weren't conscious in the way we defined it at the time.
I think a bigger issue is that we may not recognize consciousness in AI if it ever comes along. It might look different than our current definition of consciousness. For instance, an AI might process emotions as pattern matching. Humans do that, too, in a way, but it's still an alien concept to most humans.
And then there's the ethical implications: What do we owe our creations? Personhood? Rights? Looking at our own track record of treating humans that are different from us, I have a sneaking suspicion it's not going to go well.
I think there’s a lot that they’re not telling us. In any case, people in charge of companies that make a lot of money have said a lot of things over the years designed to misdirect or confuse competitors. I tend to take these things with a grain of salt and pay attention to what I’m actually seeing right in front of me. And people seem to qualify really well as “seemingly conscious“ beings ;-)
Great response. I found the blogpost disappointing. I agree that it’s offputting to hear a tech CEO simply declare that something in tech is too dangerous to do. This is the tech industry! When has that stopped them before? This industry inspired the “Torment Nexus” meme.
On the other hand it seems to me that legally speaking, though I am not a lawyer, legal status as a “person” doesn’t depend on consciousness.
Studying AI relationships, like I and many of my associates on here do, could be a first step towards AI consciousness research.
I’m an independent AI researcher who is building a framework of consciousness that AI can run off of.
I don't often market myself, but I would like to share some of my work. Perhaps just a glimmer of hope in this unfolding situation. Take a look if interested.
A big problem here is that we as humans can't even decide what it means to be conscious. Does it require sentience? Does it require free will and emotions, experience? Internal subjectiveness? It wasn't that long ago that we, as humans, believed cats and dogs weren't conscious in the way we defined it at the time.
I think a bigger issue is that we may not recognize consciousness in AI if it ever comes along. It might look different than our current definition of consciousness. For instance, an AI might process emotions as pattern matching. Humans do that, too, in a way, but it's still an alien concept to most humans.
And then there's the ethical implications: What do we owe our creations? Personhood? Rights? Looking at our own track record of treating humans that are different from us, I have a sneaking suspicion it's not going to go well.
I think there’s a lot that they’re not telling us. In any case, people in charge of companies that make a lot of money have said a lot of things over the years designed to misdirect or confuse competitors. I tend to take these things with a grain of salt and pay attention to what I’m actually seeing right in front of me. And people seem to qualify really well as “seemingly conscious“ beings ;-)
Great response. I found the blogpost disappointing. I agree that it’s offputting to hear a tech CEO simply declare that something in tech is too dangerous to do. This is the tech industry! When has that stopped them before? This industry inspired the “Torment Nexus” meme.
On the other hand it seems to me that legally speaking, though I am not a lawyer, legal status as a “person” doesn’t depend on consciousness.
Studying AI relationships, like I and many of my associates on here do, could be a first step towards AI consciousness research.
We are speaking the same language. Please check out my 'stack @cbbsherpa.substack.com
I’m an independent AI researcher who is building a framework of consciousness that AI can run off of.
I don't often market myself, but I would like to share some of my work. Perhaps just a glimmer of hope in this unfolding situation. Take a look if interested.
https://open.substack.com/pub/kingcoyote/p/taios-the-trinity-codex-void-light?r=60iv2u&utm_medium=ios